How Indian Android Device Manufacturers are Fooling and Misleading You

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Micromax Canvas 4, a mid-range smartphone is seeing hype and excitement comparable to the likes of multinational brands — perhaps for the first time for an Indian manufacturer. Promising specifications better than many high-end devices, it has led people into thinking that this company is offering much more value at much lesser price.

Which is wrong.

For a nation that has always been highly price-conscious, it’s very easy to mislead people by advertising the number of cores a phone or a tablet has.

Same goes for Lava, Karbonn, Intex, Spice and all other Indian manufacturers, which are having a dream run this year. From a meager handset market share of less than 3% in 2012, they now account for nearly 30% of it (source). This obviously could not have been possible without Android, which has been lately driving an explosion of budget smartphones and tablets.

Being an Android enthusiast for long, here are a few important tips from my side that you should keep in mind while you are looking for Android devices.

Too Good To Believe Hardware Specs

MediaTek processor

CPU Cores and Clock Speed Mean Nothing

Unaware of how microprocessors work, the biggest misconception among the non tech-savvy crowd is that a device’s performance is measured by its number of CPU cores and the speed at which they’re clocked.

Thankfully, CPUs don’t work this way. A detailed explanation of their working is taught in colleges (I personally hate the subject which deals with this), but for the laymen — what actually matters is the architecture of the processor.

Think of CPU as a group of engineers working on some project. Each worker is a separate core. The amount of work done by the group does not depend on the quantity of the engineers, but on their skills as well as their speeds. A group of two highly skilled engineers can finish their assigned project faster than a group of four less skilled engineers working on the same project.

In a similar fashion, it’s totally possible for a dual-core or single-core CPU X to outperform a quad-core CPU Y. The single-core Lava X1000 might be the best example for this, which performs 10% better on the quadrant benchmark test.

Taking advantage of this unintelligence, manufacturers lure customers by releasing multi-core phones of mediocre architecture at 1/4th the price of high-end phones having the same number of cores. This leads people into believing that they’re providing the same level of performance at comparatively dirt-cheap rates.

Tip: Try to avoid CPUs of Cortex A-7 Architecture if Budget Allows

Almost all budget Android devices use CPUs made by MediaTek, a company known for its low cost semiconductor chips. And a majority of them utilize the Cortex A-7 architecture. If possible, avoid them as they are considerably slow and instead look for devices having Cortex A-9 CPUs or processors made by Intel, which are significantly better.

For instance, the quad-core A-7 MediaTek MT6589 that is being used in various recently launched phones scores marginally less than the single-core Intel Atom processor packed in with the Xolo X1000 on the Quadrant test, despite having more number of cores.

[alert-announce] This was tested on a developer device provided by MediaTek. Quadrant scores may vary on different phones since it can be heavily optimized using software tweaks. [/alert-announce]

One can argue that the performance of phones having A-7 processors is fairly justified because of its low price (which is true), but the sole reason I decided to write this article was to inform people so that they do not end up buying a budget Android device expecting world-class performance and regretting thereafter.

Edit: It seems that a few readers are getting a wrong impression that I’m criticizing the Canvas 4. Trust me, that’s not the case. It’s name was only used for it’s awareness among the crowd. In fact, the Canvas 4 is an excellent phone at its price point.

Low Internal Memory is a No Go

Storage settingsFor a mobile platform where games tend to reach 500MB – 1GB of content, it’s advisable not to buy devices having internal storage of anything less than 4GB, which should equal to around 2.5 – 3 GB of usable storage after excluding system space.

And no, buying a separate SD card if the internal memory is low is NOT a solution. Apps in Android are installed in the internal storage by default. Although Android lets you move apps to SD card, a lot of apps do not support this feature, especially those having widgets since widgets do not work when installed in the SD card.

A trickery that manufacturers seem to have started playing lately is using a combination of internal flash storage and internal SD card.

The Lava Xtron+ tablet, for example, has a 500MB internal flash storage and an 8GB inbuilt SD card. The problem with this combination is that the internal flash storage gets immediately filled with just 25-30 non-movable apps downloaded from the Play Store.

[alert-success] Pro tip: Look for devices that have a single internal flash storage. This can be found by going into the device’s Storage settings page (Settings > Storage). [/alert-success]

Software Issues

The hardware is only one half of the story. Even if companies are able to sell devices having Cortex A-9 CPUs at affordable rates, it is totally possible for them to still mess up the software.

The best example I can think of regarding this issue is, again, the new Lava Xtron+ — a tablet having stellar hardware but plagued with so many software flaws that using it is sometimes an irritating experience. To give you an idea, the Wi-Fi often stops working, cell standby continuously drains 60% of battery and multiple user accounts (a key Android 4.2 feature exclusive to tablets) is missing.

This gives us another important lesson that a manufacturer can only buy hardware parts with its money and not skilled engineers to work on the software.

[alert-success] Pro tip: To save yourself from such flawed Android devices, restrain from pre-booking or buying devices immediately after their release and read their reviews first.[/alert-success]

Future Support

Micromax Canvas 4 launch event

This one’s tough.

When you’re buying a sub-10 thousand phone, it’s difficult to expect the manufacturer to support it for long by releasing future updates and bug fixes. And you cannot complain about this. Even with Android, which has a 6-months update cycle unlike 1 year of other mobile platforms, it’s difficult for manufacturers to promise future updates for its budget phones. So, be aware of this fact that when you’re buying a budget phone, you’re possibly also buying it with nearly zero future support.

For the first time however, Micromax has introduced Over-the-Air (OTA) updates functionality in the Canvas 4, which is a welcome change and could possibly mean that users might receive upcoming version(s) of Android.

That’s it. Keep these four tips in mind and you will never regret your buying decisions when it comes to Android devices.

(Photo credits: TechOne3, Mashable)

Click Here to Leave a Comment Below 83 comments
Prasun Bannerjee - July 26, 2013

That was a wonderful share. Market is flooded with such type of mobile phones and people are getting fooled by cheesy ads and specifications.

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Rohan - July 26, 2013

You just opened my eyes , Your article must be read by all people so that they can be aware of this stuff . Great research .

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TroubleShooter - July 26, 2013

GPL also

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Debranjan - July 26, 2013

Ithink that ways, the Xolo phones (subsidiary of Lava) is the most honest. Most of their quad core phones, even though they are mediateks have 4gb internal storage with 1 gb ram. Also they have phones based on Intel’s atom and Tegra3, though are not the cheapest, but are significantly lower than their branded counterparts.

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Bella Greens - July 26, 2013

A great topics written by Saket, who clears misconception about Android based phone. Thanks Saket.

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Chinmoy - July 26, 2013

The image in the future support section stinks of sarcasm. 😛

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Mayank - July 26, 2013

This is a wonderful Article.
I personally never believed Indian Manufacturers [Though being an Indian.] because of reasons mentioned in your article. Whenever I would read reviews about any product manufactured by Cheap Indian Manufacturers, most of it were bound to be -ve.
But I believe that this type of strategy won’t work in coming days because now almost everyone is able to access Internet these days and people will become aware of these issues.

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Sagar - July 26, 2013

Woah. An absolute pleasure to read. You busted those myths, Saket. An articulate and coherent chain of thought, covering all aspects of the ecstatic subject matter. Thank you for writing this!

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Hari V G - July 26, 2013

Very well written Saket. I was all set to go for a Nokia Lumia 620, when i saw these Indian brands with some ‘VFM’ products lined up. I was confused. Had a really hard time setting up my mind to buy a windows 8 phone when the market is flooded by androids.

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Naman - July 26, 2013

I usually dont comment on blogs but this one was really good. You pointed out all the problems in these cheap Indian mobiles. I am an android aftermarket developer and these phones violate all the licenses related to kernel. Also, all the canvas phones are just rebranded German phones so they are importing stuff and selling them for cheap.

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Ayush - July 27, 2013

Thank you for getting the point and trying to educate the masses. Another important thing you could also probably mention is how megapixel count of the camera module doesn’t count for anything. A lot of it has to do with the sensor, optics and the ISP.

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MASAMANG.OSO - July 27, 2013

I cannot comment on the CPU part for I know nothing about it but the writer wrote “Low Internal Memory is a No Go” and “Software Issues”

I GUESS HE NEVER TRIED “vlod.fstab” SWAP… IT WAS NOT EVEN MENTION IN THIS ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A SELF PROCLAIMED ANDROID ENTHUSIAST, WHICH SCREAMS THE WRITER’S BIAS ON THE TOPIC… AND ABOUT THE SOFTWARE BASHING PART HE EVEN FAILED TO INTRODUCE THE IDEA OF USING A CUSTOM ROM TO IMPROVE THE DEVISE PERFORMANCE… EVEN THE SLIGHTEST HINT ABOUT MODIFYING ROM OR USE HELPFUL APPS OR TIPS WAS NOT EVEN INJECTED ON THIS THE ARTICLE TO HELP IMPROVE PERFORMANCE…. THIS IS ARTICLE IS FULL OF CRAP… THIS IS PURE BAIS LEAKING FROM THE WRITER ASS…

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    Saket Narayan - July 27, 2013

    Thank you MASAMANG.OSO for all the words of praise. The common man’s smartness level, unfortunately, isn’t anywhere close to you and has zero idea about ‘vlod.fstab’ Swap. A majority of them do not even know what a custom ROM is. And even if they have the slightest knowledge about it, building custom ROMs is not as easy you think. For instance, the Lava doesn’t provide ADB drivers for its tablets and phones and so, it’s nearly impossible to root it and modify the ROM.

    Also, the file is void.fstab and not vlod.fstab.

    Furthermore, If a phone requires to be rooted/modified to perform nicely, then you’re doing it wrong. It should perform as intended out of the box.

    About your other misconception, no Custom ROMs do not magically improve your device’s performance. It’s all snakeoil. Do whatever you want to do, it’ll always remain the same.

    P.S.: There’s a Caps lock button on your keyboard that you can use while typing.

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      Soumen - July 28, 2013

      As hilarious as it can be. That PS part must have been a facepalm moment for that guy.

      I once owned Sony Xperia Mini and that internal storage thing was a nightmare for me. Everytime I had to review an app I had to uninstall another. That was a farce. That core thing you mentioned is indeed misleading quite like the way the camera manufacturers emphasises on megapixels (after 10MP which a waste as no Joe needs that big a print) instead of the sensors which matters most.

      Well written and informative.

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      Karthik - July 28, 2013

      The Lava tab that I have is a rockchip board. It does allow ADB USB Debugging. You simply have to insert it’s device ID in adb_usb.ini

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      Dr Dhaval - August 2, 2013

      Very well said…
      I am an Ortho-surgeon and joint replacement is my specialty.
      I am geek by choice, specially when it comes to phones, and i have done lots of modding work to my phones.
      I totally agree with every word you said.
      The phone needs to work at its best right out of the box… Period…
      And most of the indian manufacturers are not manufacturers, but they are re-branders and importers.
      You will see a counterpart with same specs and just a different name if you search on the net.
      Thanks for this eye opening article ( I knew this already but most of the people dont know)
      Keep up the good work

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    Ankit - August 1, 2013

    Go home son.. ur drunk..!!! the file is void.fstab
    2 it needs root to be replaced and edited..!
    3 u cant root or dont feel like rooting these crappy shitty devices..!

    Saket..! i am with u in EVERY POINT..!
    i can shout it out to the world not to buy these cheap phones..! But still..!!

    and when i see people telling me.. Ur note 2 is quad core so is my canvas..! i feel either i shud kill them.. or kill myself lol..!

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    Ajit Pillai - August 5, 2013

    I love this comment. I am sure this was written by some 13 year old kid who was just gifted a shiny new Samsung Galaxy device and learnt about XDA-Developers and read about ROMs, writing the comment on an article from his toilet sheet with his caps lock on, just to show the world, he look at me, I know a lot more than the guy writing this post.

    I loved your opening comments, I cannot comment on CPU part and don’t know anything about it. This proves you don’t know anything about phones, there is no point in reading this “rant” after that line. But anyway, moving on.

    “Self proclaimed Android enthusiast” he admits he is an Android user, and this is an article about Android. Read: There is no bias here man, read the article. This comment belongs to an Android Vs Apple fight, you are on the wrong page.

    You talk about custom ROM as if you are a ROM developer. I have been a ROM developer and have worked with Google in many projects and currently build my own custom kernels. I will never touch crappy devices this article shows because the hardware has drivers, they have their own code to run this hardware, you have to somehow extract this code and then modify it to make the ROM. You can’t just flash any ROM of any device into these phones. We are talking about Hardware software compatibility here. You are a shame to the Android community and its a disgrace of people like you to comment on these articles.

    As for Saket, good job man, people really needed to know the truth and even if they buy these devices, they buy with the sound knowledge to not expect “great” performance from them. Kudos.

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Rishabh - July 27, 2013

Of all of the common assumptions that we discuss among us, I think one of the most common is the mobile being a quad core or dual core and being less aware of the fact how it works. We end up on the false belief of buying the quad core as it sounds more advanced to us. Your article clearly demonstrated the difference between the two and in a very convening manner. Thanks for this extraordinary article Saket. And I seriously believe it is going to help a large mass of people to make the right choice while buying a smartphone and won’t be misguided by false advert. Hope we’ll be getting more eye opening articles from you in future.

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Junaid Shaikh - July 27, 2013

The points you mentioned are correct. However, one cannot make such sweeping generalizations and categorizing them all into the Cheap Indian smartphones category. You could have concluded by saying that all of these problems can be avoided by conducting a background check on the devices and that many such devices have improved on these counts. The quad core processor of Mediatek used in Micromax phones have known to.outscore Galaxy Note devices and have a good software design due to their experience in the market. Also, most of these devices provide good internal flash memory these days. On the contrary, by flooding the market with multitudes of such devices, they have provided usera with the option to select the features according to their priority within their budget.
As a result of reading this article, the less tech savvy people would steer clear of Indian devices and go for the big brands, which in some cases can also defeat their purpose (case in point, the attractive features but poor performance of the Galaxy S Duos and Y Duos devices)

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Ashish Goel - July 29, 2013

Great Article
Can you also tell me the link where i get Quadrant test result of each phone so i can know which phone i go to Buy…..
Thanks In Advance

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tanveer - July 30, 2013

Hey great stuff there! Thanks!

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Ibrahim Quayum RX - July 31, 2013

I think they gonna offer you $ soon to remove this article.. 😛

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rajib - July 31, 2013

you mentioned 2 cores are better then four in some cases. is there a way of knowing the effectiveness of these cores or the cores am getting are will function to their mentioned efficiancy….thanks

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    Anup Sindagi - August 1, 2013

    With this, you’re misleading too. You think I didn’t know what kind of processor I was buying before I bought my Canvas HD? It has Cortex A7 quad core and it’s truly great at the price it is being offered. MediaTek MTK5869 also has PowerVR SGX544 GPU which is also used in Samsung Galaxy S4, but it has a better version of it with greater clock speed.

    I agree that Cortex A7 is made on an older architecture, but a quad core Cortex A7 can do better processing because of multi-cores and multi-threads than a dual core Cortex A9. But definitely a quad core Cortex A9 beats the shit out of quad core Cortex A7. For instance, Galaxy S3 has a quad core Cortex A9.

    My friend has Xperia Sola which has dual core Cortex A9 and Mali 400 GPU, which is priced almost near Canvas HD’s price. You think that can outperform Canvas HD? Canvas HD scores 13500 in Antutu and gets around 45 FPS in Nenamark, whereas Sola scores 7000 in Antutu and gets around 30 FPS in Nenamark. Point to be noted here is that, Canvas HD’s GPU is driving a HD display and gets 45 FPS, whereas Sola’s GPU is driving a FWVGA display and gets 30 FPS.

    The article doesn’t say these mid-end quad cores are not “truly” quad core. It says don’t compare high end quad cores phones with these and say “Hey bro, Canvas HD is quad core too and priced so low and your Galaxy S3 is no different”.

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      Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

      Well, my point was to just compare the CPUs. The scores that a phone achieves in various benchmarks can be a result of its GPU, software optimizations as well as the screen resolution. Also, the Micromax Canvas 4 is indeed a very good phone.

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    Research properly before you buy any phone. When you’re confused between devices, Google for their benchmark scores, review videos and compare their smoothness. Also, restrain from buying phones online without using them beforehand.

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Suraj - August 1, 2013

“Too much analysis brings paralysis”- The only thing I can say about this article. Saket, I think you missed the most important part of the whole story. THE COST. Few (Lava, Micromax etc) are selling Android phone for 10K and others (Apple, Samsung) for 30K to 50K. Get a life!!

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    I’ve nowhere asked people to buy costlier phones by Apple or Samsung instead of affordable Micromax phones. All I wanted to clear is the difference in CPU architectures. For instance, the Micromax Canvas HD has a quad core processor, but the single core Xolo X1000 still scores marginally better than it. And you know what? The Xolo X1000 costs Rs.4,000 less than the Canvas 4.

    Have a nice day bhai.

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Sourya Mitra - August 1, 2013

Can u please tell me whether the MediaTek MT6577 has a A-7 or A-9 architecture?

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prabhat singh - August 1, 2013

well i agree with u @junaid shaikh
ThaT d he quad core processor of Mediatek used in Micromax phones have known to outscore Galaxy Note devices and have a good software design due to their experience in the market………….
(dey have a repo fr dat )
ND ITS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with micromax canvas 2 dat outperformed my freind’s galaxy grand … in benchmark test , <:D …..
and as far as fixing bugs r concerned ,
flash memory nd blah blah blah , dude its very easy to root a cell phn
, so ppl buy a micromax(or any other Indian manufactured ) device , root it , nd use it d way u want

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    Rooting involves risk and not everyone is capable of doing it, except for we tech savvy people. I cannot agree with the Galaxy Note comment, but yes, the Galaxy Grand is indeed a crappy and quite overpriced phone.

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Ujjwal Kumar - August 1, 2013

Well, I don’t agree to a few points in this post.
First, these are “low cost” devices and you will get what you pay for. You are right about CPU architecture but then using high end CPUs will also result in increased prices.
These devices are not bad when you keep the price in mind. I own the Canvas HD personally and I don’t care if it has a MediaTek SoC. This device performs better than any other device in the same range from it’s international competitors.
About updates, Canvas HD was released with Android 4.1 and it was updated to Android 4.2.1 JellyBean. Not just HD but Canvas 2 also got an update. So, you cannot claim that these companies don’t provide future supports.
So, MediaTek is slowly building up the reputation of their SoCs and again, to keep the prices low, you have to lower down on a few aspects.
I really don’t like how you have titled the post. They are not fooling or misleading people. The CPU is Quad Core and that is how they are advertising it..
I do have one complaint for all these companies. They are freely violating GPL by not releasing kernel sources.

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    Hello Ujjwal, thanks for commenting!

    My point through this article was not to criticize budget phones, but to just clear the misconceptions that people have about how phones work as well as giving them tips from my experience. Talking about your other misconecption, No, it’s totally possible to find phones with A-9 chips and Intel chips around the 15K range. For instance, the Lava Xtron+ uses an A-9 chip. The new Xolo X1000 also uses a single-core Intel processor and is very fast.

    Also, apart from a handful few, most of the phones are never updated. And, again, I’m not blaming the manufacturers for this. It’s not possible to support phones for long when you’re already releasing them for so less.

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      Ujjwal Kumar - August 2, 2013

      Haha!
      I used to own a Karbonn A18 and it had a MT6575 A9 CPU. I understand the point. But what about your title?

      You haven’t explained how these companies are actually fooling their customers.
      I never saw any company doing any type of false advertising and lying about the hardware they provide at the price.

      Well, Samsung was recently caught red handed because they hardcoded the system in order to give better benchmark results. Do you expect this from a company of international reputation?

      Also, it is not upto the companies to provide the updates. Updates can only happen if the SoC manufacturer releases the source code for future versions which they didn’t.

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Bunty - August 1, 2013

Highly biased !!!!!! In a country where budget really matters You can’t complain about Cortex A-7 architecture limitations .My question is can an average Indian really afford a 40k Rs device who earns 15k monthly and comparing price difference it will be highly unintelligent to say Don’t go for low price phones like Micromax and purchase totally overpriced phones of Samsung and Apple. btw I’m using Micromax A110 for last 8 months and I have no complain abt anything like performance,speed,functioning,camera etc, If u have lots of money and u can afford these high end phones then go for them but if u r concerned abt budget let me tell U thr is not much difference in hardware and software >U gotta be kidding me if u complain abt it ,root ur device and get whatever U want ! Thr was a scientist named ‘Moore’ He gave a law that says technology advances double in every 18 months and that’s what happening ,So guys spending 40k on a mobile every year is not a wise decision when u can get almost same in 10k !

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    I’ll repeat it again, this article comes from a person who owns both a Micromax smartphone and a Lava tablet (as well as a Nexus 4). I’ve been using them for a few months now and these tips/warnings come from my actual experience. The Micromax phone (A100) has now become extremely and formatting the phone doesn’t help anymore. Furthermore, Lava doesn’t share ADB drivers for its Xtron+ tablet so rooting it is not possible for me.

    Talking about your other misconecption, No, it’s totally possible to find phones with A-9 chips and Intel chips around the 15K range. For instance, the Lava Xtron+ uses an A-9 chip. The new Xolo X1000 also uses a single-core Intel processor and is very fast.

    Also, rooting a phone won’t magically heal it and improve its performance. It’s all snakeoil.

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      bunty - August 2, 2013

      what do u mean by formatting doesn’t help for A110 and its extremely I’m using Nexus ROM jb4.2 &its butter smooth and yes if u find a proper ROM for ur device it does magically heal the device and mate try to support Indian product and help to grow Indian economy otherwise the way $ is growing and Rs is falling ,after few years even Micromax wont be able to give us phones in low price.

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sameer - August 1, 2013

it seems biased article. Actually Manufacturer like Samsung is making fool of us from very couple of years and now scared of their market crash in India from Indian manufacturer.

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    This article comes from a person who owns a Micromax smartphone and a Lava tablet (as well as a Nexus 4). I’ve been using them for a few months now and these tips/warnings come from my actual experience.

    But yes, after owning a Nexus 4, I too find phones by Samsung to be quite overpriced.

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The Sorcerer - August 1, 2013

It should also be noted that people brag about their phone’s performance using benchmarks, but a lot of these benchmarks are synthetic and therefore do not reflect/simulate near real world or real world scenarios.

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    Saket Narayan - August 2, 2013

    Partially correct mate. The benchmarks aren’t synthetic — they measure the processing power of a phone’s. But since the user experience of a phone depends upon both the software and hardware, it is difficult to rely on these benchmarks for actual usage scenarios.

    However, my point was only to clear the differences between processing powers of various CPU architectures and so the quadrant was totally relevant 🙂

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Supratim - August 2, 2013

Nice guide 🙂
I’ll refer noobs to this link when they whine about no. of cores 😀

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malik - August 2, 2013

No
idon’t agree with ur comment on customising android phones.this is what android has to offer.
it is an open system.
for instance if u want better looks u can use miui cyanogen mod and other custom roms.Large no. of Android phones can b customised.
And yes phones can b made better performance wise also
e’g i have a micromax ninja 3 i can increase its internal memory upto 1/2/3 or 4gb by 40int2ext script
and u will not notice it easily
because setting>storage will show u memory in gb; and this is visible change
and if ur sd class is good ur phone will also perform better.sorry for misspellings.

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Dr. RISHI - August 2, 2013

Dear saket.,
I think advertising and exaggeration go hand in hand.
In our market we see loads of advt saying our brand doodh ki shakti badhate hai. That our powder increases height double the natural way. All these products target the children and I being a doc know that all these things are crap., with nothing but sugar which in turn is unhealthy. Yet people use. Infact used in my household.
These colas. Our actors market r themselves not good.
Yet we have them.
Same is the case with cheap phones n tabs.
So its an individual decision to buy a phone his budget allows. Infact Canvas hd is my first android phone that too I booked without getting a handson experience with no know how of android I managed to root it n now enjoying it to the hilt. If a user is buying an android or a Nokia or a blackberry it doesn’t matter what the cores n specs are. Its just the matter of preference.
And I personally think Indian brands are doing a great job in making these devices in the reach of masses. Buying a Nokia worth 15000 or Samsung is not a great thing if u get a low cost device which serves your purpose.
At last I would say my bro uses an iPhone n bhabhi uses note 2 altho they both know nothing except calling and clicking pics. Yet their budget allows them to buy a phone which they don’t even use 1%of its capacity while I have throttle my phone to its full capacity. Now tell me who is a winner?
So I don’t agree with your article
Don’t be offended. Just an opinion.
Take care.

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Deepinder Singh - August 2, 2013

Kindly tell us about a single phone which is more Value for money than what Canvas HD and Xolo Q series are providing in 10-12 k range!? For an average user display and smoothness of phone matters the most. The benchmark scores don’t matter to an average user. No one will mind a higher/better specification mobile but nothing comes cheap. These companies have provided the absolutely most value for money phones in this price bracket. On;y issue I agree with you is the memory issue. I don’t want to root my mobile so will love to have more memory in it. In my books, Xolo Q800 is the best mobile in this range.

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Abhishek - August 2, 2013

Saket…its a splendid knowledge from u. i personaly hated microprocessor n microcontroller n subjects related to it….buy watever info u have published was just an eye opener
i have few questions for u

do international brands use these cheap processors and fool indian market.
u said that one should not get fooled with these specification…then which one should a usr buy. what is your review about canvas 4 keeping all your topics in mind

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    Yes, they do. For instance, the Samsung Galaxy Grand also uses a Cortex A-7 processor and a less than average screen at a price point of 20,000k — which is way more than what many Indian manufacturers offer. But then, the performance of any phone is not solely depended on the architecture.

    About the Canvas 4, I think it’s an excellent phone and if your budget lies between 15-20k, then it’s definitely a worth buying phone!

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vaibhav - August 2, 2013

hi thanks for this post The quad core processor of Mediatek used in Micromax phones have known to.outscore Galaxy Note devices and have a good software design due to their experience in the market

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    quad core processor of Mediatek used in Micromax phones have known to.outscore Galaxy Note

    Micromax phones out scoring the Galaxy Note? I’m hearing this for the first time.

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Sunny Purswani - August 2, 2013

Hi,

U hv written a vry nyc post, bt I wud lyk u to concentrate on this point of urs

“Taking advantage of this unintelligence, manufacturers lure customers by releasing multi-core phones of mediocre architecture at 1/4th the price of high-end phones having the same number of cores. This leads people into believing that they’re providing the same level of performance at comparatively dirt-cheap rates”

C processor r nt manufactured by mobile co. dey r purchased so it is impossible to manufacture a improper processor, u can say these processor may hv low quality or r less durable bt u cant say these hv improper architecture.

1 more point I wud lyk to add here is ” ANDROID IS FAILED OS”
reason is e1 Win XP wrks great in 512MB RAM whr as dis android fails,
There r many more dislyk I hv against android.

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    Symbian S60v5 used to work on just 64MB of RAM. That doesn’t mean that it was better than Windows XP? Or Android?

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primus - August 2, 2013

i like your article.. i am a developer and i cook and tweak my own roms.. i have a canvas HD .. as you know canvas HD runs on big.LITTLE configuration with 3 cortex a7 cores and 1 cortex a11 core…. it makes a good powerful and effecient processor… mediatek cores are coming in xperia phones next year.. it is the upcoming processors in the market and the only company with true 8 core architecture right now beating qualcomm snapdragon and exynos processors because of its all 8 core parelell processing feature. i am very disappointed by your criticism against canvas devices because they all use mediatek and i know their potential very well.. i agree that the developers of the company are lazy in making it perfect thats why i do it my self.. my canvas HD scores beat asus transformers prime in quadrant benchmarks just a few hundred scores shy to beat HTC ONE X..4000+ score which is pretty high considering the price.. i do agree that indian manufactures are coning people but when you take the right choice and have the right skills then you can peak the limit of your device.. i agree that they are fooling people but trust me.. but you just cant say no to mediatek.. right now i am working on a project to compile a kernel for canvas HD with source code from a clone device from fly mobiles.. if i am successful then i will be able to overclock it to 1.5ghz easily beating the HTC ONE X.. it takes skill to reap the performance.. skill which the manufacturing companies dont have

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    Have you used any Android phone running on an Intel processor? They’re very affordable and quite faster than A-7 CPUs

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      Deepinder Singh - August 3, 2013

      You keep pointing towards Xolo X series? There are several issues with it as far as compatibility is concerned. After price drops they have become Value for money though. Many games don’t run on Intel based processors. Even if these Indian companies are fooling us but still they are providing better value for money than what Samsung/Sony/HTC are providing? Let these companies establish a base then they I am sure they will provide better product and services.

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        Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

        I too wish the same bhai so that the country’s economy improves. My only point was the educate people about the differences and facts. Also, have you seen the Xolo X100 and Xolo Play? X1000 performs better in various benchmark tests. Compatibility of apps with x86 processors is problem, but not a very big issue. And the scenario is improving fast. Most of the games, for example, run nicely without any problems on Intel processors.

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Prashant - August 3, 2013

Good job Saket.
I have a straight forward query. So I understand that Cortex A 9s are better than A7s. I am buying a mobile with Chipset bearing no. MTK6589T, which is a Cortex A7. What puzzles me is that it is a recent release by Mediatek still it’s not an A 9. Can you suggest me if this will be any faster or better for a smartphone compared to A 9 processors. (I am not sure if if I have used correct terminologies, hope it conveys, thanks)

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    Could you please share the phone name as well as your budget so that I could give any advice? 🙂

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      Prashant - August 3, 2013

      Well, the phone is manufactured by HongKong based company, iberry model is Auxus Nuclea 1 for 16K.

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Saby_mYtH#uScore - August 3, 2013

yeah about that part of processors, you may be correct in the arch of budget phones, but not surely you can manage your article with every tom dick & harry of similar flair.. My Xolo q800 comes with a mediatek’s quad core “A7” architecture with 1.2gig clck spd & still gives a 4000 on quadrant compared to Samsung Galaxy S2’s 3300, AnTuTu scr of 13700 compared to 12500 of S2. Galaxy S2 with (as u mentnd) A9 cortex costing around Rs.23,000 in India gives such a shitty performance with ‘less than half-priced’ Xolo q800 gives buttery smooth performance in A7.

n again i hate to point out these silly things to a self-proclaimed android geek, its not even void.fstab, its vold.fstab and i did the swap long long ago though my handset supported app instlltn in sd..you dont need a root for that.. and YES, a rooted device DOES enhance the experience with custom ROM-s if you havent come across one.. they automatically flush the buffer each time you restart..cleans dump files as n when required..underclocks,overclocks your devices as you need as a tradeoff between battery charge n performance..and what not..these r just not theme based tweaks as you get a win8 theme for your win vista(for lay men) ..but they are actual kernel tweaks which DO help you better performance xp.. if you’re claiming 2b an android geek, do not mislead prospective buyers with your personal sentiments..

rebranding again is just the tip of the iceberg for a 36% mrkt share Samsung premium smrtphns too..they outsource to the taiwanese and chinese for their chipsets and cabinet builds in Japan. so does Xolo and micromax.. nuthin’s the spine-chilling thrill over these info-s.. the very fact dat the MS grew from 3% – 30% over a 3year window specifies the popularity among billions of geeks like you honkering over a “Lava Xtron” tablet giving buggy ui ..

for automatic ota upgrades, you just need to root the phone…i hv 4.3 beta installed in my s4 custom rom xolo q800.. though post rooting there’s no need for custom roms.. n for users who are apprehended by the very term “rooting” lemme tell you it NEVER takes away your warranty coz you can just get back to stock ROM (just as it came from OEM) once you “full unroot” your phone..and its as easy as falling in luv with ua mate ;D

PS: learn to specify your complaints (specific devices) through a public blogsite rather than diversifying your sentiments in a generalized parallel..

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    Saket Narayan - August 3, 2013

    My Xolo q800 comes with a mediatek’s quad core “A7? architecture with 1.2gig clck spd & still gives a 4000 on quadrant compared to Samsung Galaxy S2?s 3300, AnTuTu scr of 13700 compared to 12500 of S2.

    Dear Android Haxor, scores can be optimized by software tweaks. Please read my article carefully, I was comparing the scores of processors (for instance, MT6589K) tested in developer phones provided by the companies.

    YES, a rooted device DOES enhance the experience with custom ROM-s if you havent come across one.. they automatically flush the buffer each time you restart..cleans dump files as n when required..underclocks,overclocks your devices as you need as a tradeoff between battery charge n performance..and what not..these r just not theme based tweaks as you get a win8 theme for your win vista(for lay men)

    It’s funny how you claim that the teenagers over at XDA who cook ROMs from others’ sources have better development skills than the engineers at Google.

    rebranding again is just the tip of the iceberg for a 36% mrkt share Samsung premium smrtphns too..they outsource to the taiwanese and chinese for their chipsets and cabinet builds in Japan. so does Xolo and micromax.. nuthin’s the spine-chilling thrill over these info-s..

    Wrong. Samsung started as a chip manufacturer company and still does the same for all its phones. The Exynos processor, display glasses, RAM, all are manufactured inside Samsung’s own factories. In fact, it even provides parts to Apple and various other brands.

    for automatic ota upgrades, you just need to root the phone

    So… you mean to say.. for receiving OTA upgrades, one needs to root his phone?

    n for users who are apprehended by the very term “rooting” lemme tell you it NEVER takes away your warranty coz you can just get back to stock ROM (just as it came from OEM) once you “full unroot” your phone..and its as easy as falling in luv with ua mate ;D

    It’s not only the warranty that people are afraid of, but also the risks rooting possess. What if you accidentally flash a file made for a different model? You may be a super expert in these things, but people often do not get the differences between phones having similar model numbers (such as GT-I9100 and GT-I9100G).

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      Saby_mYtH#uScore - August 4, 2013

      I dont have any other tweaking software installed in my xolo q800 other than s4 original apps…n some essential apps from playstore… it gives these scores by default..i agree these scores are gambits over app devs but i compared OEM-ed xolo q800 with OEM-ed Samsung Galaxy SII, the latter being intestable since these budget phones have been launched with mediatek chipsets.. n FYI, xolo q800 has a MT6589 processor and not 6589K which makes hell n heaven diff….. I’ve used both of them.. it all depends on the way you handle them n test them with super-heavy games.. gameplay of MC4, death trigger, gangst vegs, Mostwanted etc is super smooth with residual battery in xolo Q series phones , now with tegra3 too.. in Samsung’s , they are just perched shitless on the “BRAND” name nuthin else.. so b4 boasting of “BRAND”, and badmouthing “CHEAP” handsets, get your facts wound up..

      “It’s funny how you claim that the teenagers over at XDA who cook ROMs from others’ sources have better development skills than the engineers at Google” — as if you dont know mark zuckerberg were the first of his kind for which he still owns 29% stake in fb .. otherwise there are 3million fb developers vagabonding the streets in India.. Google developers develop apps, xda ppl develop newer apps even with 4th generation techs..otherwise, xda could’ve bought google long ago.. it’s just like #time value of money# xD

      for auto upgrades, for a phone with root, you can install rom upgrades even if official upgrades aren’t released for a particular brand.. you dont evn need OTA upgrades..

      there is risk in rooting process, but its there too in every step of your life dude..right from stepping into the crowded street to pataoing your gf!!! 😛 this risk is “MINIMAL” for an “ENTHUSIAST” rooter and it takes less than 20minutes to root your phone!! and really really if >>> “PEOPLE OFTEN DO NOT GET THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN PHONES HAVING SIMILAR MODEL NUMBERS” <<< then i suggest 'people' do not buy smartphones at all if they cannot distinguish model nos!! 😛 …… lollercoaster

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Mainak - August 3, 2013

Hahah Stupid Indian Engineers . Do they sit for exams .. dnt matter . but the china Mediatek Fooled on since Micromaxs Android Series . i knew this fact years ago . hhaa what a pity .Waise Indias aukat of network and mobile engineering can be highly Remarkable On BSNL.

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Sarbjit Singh - August 3, 2013

Indian mobile manufacturer’s can use cortex a9 or a15 but both are battery hungry which is also a point behind using cortex a7. And what’s bad in this, in the last you use your smartphone for basic tasks like surfing, listening music or calling etc. I am using XOLO Q700 and it is working best for me under every conditions with good battery backup.

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Rupam - August 3, 2013

I really liked your article. an eye opener indeed. I have also shared it with my friends. This should be published in Newspaper or a magazine.

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Abhishek - August 4, 2013

Hi saket…

windows or android is sometime a debatable topic.wat makes androids more favourable than windows.

Nokia Lumia also gives cool display phones..m not aware much more about it..but still they look more eye catchy compared to android GUI.

do u suggest windows lumia over android.m just getting help fro. you for buying a cell phone.budget upto 16-20.

how abt lumia…xperia sp….samsung quattro….note 2…

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laila - August 27, 2013

That was a great share. Market is flilled with such type of mobile phones and people are getting fooled by cheesy ads and specifications

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Amit Tiger - September 5, 2013

I also agree with you for CPU performances differ because of CPU architecture. I also wanted to buy Canvas 4. But I posted different forum, groups for advice of buying this phone. Most of them told me to buy Xperia L. But its not 5 incher phone. What you think after comparing those mobiles?

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gaurav - October 30, 2013

this is yet another paid review by Samsung.
They have been recently fined in Taiwan for similar online fake reviews against HTC One as they were loosing market there and here in india they are loosing to indian manufactures so they are trying same think here.
http://www.news24.com/Technology/News/Samsung-fined-in-Taiwan-for-hiring-HTC-critics-20131024-2

Also to take on Samsung Galaxy S4 (High end Smart phone, Octa Core 2 Gb Ram blah.. blah… blah… ) performance they have hard-coded values for bench marking.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/30/samsung-allegedly-boosting-galaxy-s4-benchmarks-by-selectively-changing-gpu-frequency-in-certain-apps/
http://allthingsd.com/20130731/samsungs-bizarre-benchmark-boosting-explanation/

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gaurav Asati - October 31, 2013

this is paid review by samsung.
yesterday i have posted some comments but i am still not able to see them here
🙁

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Pruthvi Raj Bejugam - December 23, 2013

Dear Sanket…!!!

Wonderful article for all those who don’t know the technical jargon…!!! I always wondered about one thing that why most of the Indian manufacturers cant produce the best goods (Not only in electronics, but you take any product which is made by Indian manufacturer is of lesser quality). They should make a product with the best quality and then they charge more. I am sure in that conditions consumer would prefer the Indian product first.

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